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Not often I get in at the beginning of a new page. Greetings to everyone.

Jinty

Hi there everybody - Roidi - I asked if you had a sister called Margaret because I thought you were somebody else - I am not too guilty of having senior moments just yet - more into kraft moments as supplied by the cheese people. You ask the question of how does a person know if they are nutty - well my friend - I am taking this nutty as being funny and I think it would be up to people who know me or have met me to tell you the rest. Perhaps one day you will be lucky enough to meet me for yourself and see what a really fabulous person that I am - if it was not for my modesty, I think I would be just perfect!!

I hope to see the Shipping News this week since I read the book when I was on holiday recently. I did download it but I think I would prefer to see it on the big screen first.

Now who can remember taking a jelly jar to get into the cinema - NOT ME - but I remember my grandmother telling me that this was done! I think nowadays we would need two crates of jelly jars for entrance!!

I'm sitting here in the back room, at the computer, and I hear the familiar strains of - "Goodbye old Paint, I'm a leavin' Cheyenne", coming from the TV in the living room. Sure enough - my husband is watching Shane, yet another time! He claims he never gets tired of it, and he admits to at least a hundred or more viewings! There are certain parts that he waits for and looks forward to. I usually come in at the very end, when Shane and Wilson, have the famous confrontation and resulting gun fight. But my favorite part is the very end when Joey calls out - "Shane, come back - mother needs you", etc. Grabs me every time. Getting close - better sign out or I'll miss it!

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They have the program by the volume (three episodes per tape) and by the set. Take note that pricing is by the £ and not the $.

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Hi folks, just been reading the remarks here. Scottybowler, you sure have a good sense of humor. enjoyed reading your remarks, you are so modest!!!!!!! Marelyne, I always like to watch Shane, too. Alan Ladd was one of my favorite actors. He was a tough guy in that movie but had a sesitive side too. I liked many of the old actors and not too many of today's group. no one today like Cary Grant,Jimmy Cagney, Jimmy Stewart,John Wayne I could go on and list all my favorites. I sounds like most of the people on this site are from the UK. Take care all glor

I scanned the Movie Menu, this morning, and see a few good ones on today. For those who enjoy watching the great old musicals, Fiddler On the Roof, is on TCM, at 10 this morning. (PST)

For those who like Westerns, there is a classic oldie, Dodge City, on the Western Channel at 10:30 (PST). This dates back to l939, and stars Errol Flynn and Olivia DeHaviland.

At 5:00 p.m. PST, one of my favorite (if a bit corny!) Bing Crosby movies - Going My Way, from 1944. This is always fun to watch, with the melodramatic, tear jerking scene at the end, featuring Barry Fitzgerald.

Another old Western on TWC, at 6:00 PST, is the Bob Hope and Jane Russell comedy from 1952 - Son of Paleface". This also stars, Roy Rogers.

DELIghted to see this forum here. Someone mentioned Scotty's sense of humor (okay, you UKers, humour), but you oughta see her in person in action....it's scary.

TV has certainly given a new life to a lot of old movies..it's wonderful to see "old friends" that way. When I began to think of today's actors that I like, I realized how many of them are older and also stage-trained. Which means, mostly British. Judi Dench is amazing and one of my all-time favorites, though not quite back into the Golden Age of Movies.

How much I enjoyed the Hepburn/Tracy movies, or really, any of hers. Claudette Colbert and Irene Dunne....great timing as lovable nuts in many of their comedies, but also in their more serious roles.

Gregory Peck is still my favorite (someday I'm going to meet him, we'll reimnisce about both of us at Cal, and we'll get married), but Jimmy Stewart, Hank Fonda...they're right up there too.

Fran

Good afternoon everyone, Marilyne, I wish I still had the western channel. I enjoyed those old westerns, some good, some corny but still great. Does any one remember Cornell Wilde? As a teenager I had his picture up on my door. I loved Walter Brennon, he was good in whatever he was in. How about Claudette Colbert and Clark Gable in It Happened One Night. That I have taped from AMC and still laugh when I watch it. I think the latest movie I saw was The Green Mile, and that was on TV. I don't think I could sit in a theater long enough to watch a movie now. Have a good day Gloria

Today - just killing time - I caught both Ben Hur and Gladiator. Now I must admit that I'm a push over for swod and shiled, bread and circus spectaculars -- but after seeing these two - and Spatacus theother night - I've been in heaven.

And despite the fact that the chariot race in Ben Hur was incredible - and Kirk Douglas was at his best in Spartacus - this recent Gladiator was one of the most intelligent, finely crafted spectacles I have ever seen. Russell Crowe is turning ino a marvelous actor - Joachin Phoenix is a remarkable young talent - the opening battle scenes are riveting - and there are some indidivual scenes that feature some of the best writing I have seen in years.

I noticed an interesting story in the Real Estate, section of my local paper. It's a feature that they do every week, about houses of celebrities, that have recently either sold or are for sale. Among others this week, is a house in the Hollywood Hills, built in the early 1940's, for Gregory Peck. After Peck, grew tired of it, he sold it to, Boris Karloff. Since Karloff died, it has changed hands many times. Just went on the market again for 2.9 million. (actually a reasonable price for that area.) It has 6 bedrooms, 6.5 bathrooms, on 5000+ sq ft., with spectacular views, pool, and all other goodies you can imagine - including an orchid garden. *Sigh*

Lots of good movies coming up this week, that we all like to see over and over again. "The Best Years of Our Lives", "Casablanca", "The Searchers", and "Sunset Boulevard", to name just a few of the best!

Hi all, I live in Melbourne Australia, and just discovered your sites.( great as I am a late starter on the Internet.) We have been treated recently to Cary Grant oldies on free to air T.V and how I have enjoyed them. Mr Blandings builds his Dream Home, My Beautiful Wife, & next week The Bachelor & the Bobby Soxer, looking forward to many more weeks to come. Hope we get Arsenic & Old Lace. None were Box office hits I'm sure, but it's great to see them again. All the fake scenery, no special effects, & the dialogue seems so corny. But I LOVED every minute of them. regards Mottled (female)

Tie your kangaroo down for a while matey and join in the fun here.

Yes, Cary Grant is great in most any film. However I think you are mistaken as to the box-office popularity of the flicks you mentioned...they were (at least here in the US of A) all b.o. winners in their time.

If you've never seen his other films, do try to catch "To Catch a Thief", "Crisis", "Notorious", "Charade" and "North By Northwest" if you can. Plus, of course, the "oldies" such as "Bringing Up Baby", "His Gal Friday" and "Gunga Din."

I always loved Arsenic and Old Lace and never miss a chance to watch it when it's on TV, which isn't too often. But my all-time favorite Cary Grant comedy is Father Goose, partly because it plays so against type (scraggly beach bum vs the suave, sophisticated types he usually played). It's not a comedy per se, but my other favorite, never-miss Cary Grant movie is An Affair to Remember.

mottled - Welcome to the Golden Age of Movies! Be sure to let us know if you enjoyed all the rest of the, Cary Grant, oldies? My favorites would probably be the Hitchcock's - with, North By Northwest, being #1, followed by "Notorious" and "Suspicion". All of the black and white comedies are fun - especially "Arsenic and Old Lace", "My Favorite Wife", etc. "Gunga Din", is indeed, an amazing movie. I saw it again recently and was very impressed. (Love those elephants!)

Hi Mottled The Batcheler and the Bobby Soxer with Shirley Temple may not have been big box office but it was great. Always enjoy Arsenic and Old Lace Those old "Aunts" were something else. I,too always enjoy a Cary Grant movie, no matter how many times I have seen it before.

Marty from Miami, Gunga Din was is one of my favorite Grant movie. How about I Was a Male War Bride. He was a riot in that one. Then so dramatic in Nort By Nothwest.. He could do it all !!!!!!

Happy watching. Gloria

For any of you with access to the Showtime cable movie channel, run, don't walk, to set you VCR to tape a most delightful "little" movie.

I'm referring to a 1986 British comedy called "Foreign Body" which stars Indian actor Victor Banerjee (you might remember him from the drama "A Passage to India") and a hilarious performance by Warren Mitchell that steals the picture.

It will be on Showtime early tomrrow (Tuesday, 3/12) morning at 6:45 AM, E.S.T. It runs for about two hours.

I HIGHLY recommend this film to those who enjoy a quiet, intelligent comedy.

If any of you do see it, please let me know what you think of it.

Parman you and i have certainly got the same kind of tastes.Having moved off frrom Renee Russo[what film did you like best by the way]find you are a Joaquin Phoenix fan.....didn't he look so ...ummmm...menacing in Gladiator.Riveting is an excellent choice of word for the entire film the likes of which i thought had gone forever. Gladiator proved that epics are still there waiting to be made and Russell Crowe a star piece of casting.To Cary Grant , happened to switch on to TCM channel to see him in something i just couln't put my finger on , Eva Marie Saint and James Mason i noticed too.Women were so glossy in those days.Don't have TCM at home , I'm on holiday as i post this but keep looking in on this discussion.Incidentally, a friend and i were discussing the westerns the other night as we passed a bar named Le gaucho Angel which somehow triggered a look back into the Angel Eyes character played by that superb baddie Lee Van Cleef in thatfamous spaghetti western i have no need to name.We both tried to outguess each other on the very last western ever made title ... to come up with How The West Was Won. I have my doubts!Can anyone confirm. Happy viewing!

Cary Grant was in North by Northwest with Eva Marie Saint and James Mason.

I don't know the answer to the question about the last western, but I did LOVE How the West Was Won!

roidininki - The most recent western of any consequence, was probably The Unforgiven, starring Clint Eastwood, and also directed by him, I think? I know it won an Academy Award, but not sure of the year - maybe early 90's? I didn't expect to like it, but was surprised at how good it was. More like a dark drama, rather than a standard old fashioned Western.

Glori 31 i remember Cornel Wilde, surprised no one else has come in on this! He was very boyish looking, had tight dark curls and looked like dark eyes, wasnt he in something likefantasy films, Arabian Night sort of stuff, but i can also picture him in a suit ,maybe a thriller.Marylyne, thanks for the info on the last western made,sawThe Unforgiven, too. Glori, do you remember John Hodiak.. now why did i think of him? Cos theyre all good looking ?I cant think why"types" of looks have changed so.. anyone agree or has an explanation? Texas Songbird was it so simple? North by Northwest was the 1st.thought that came into my head!

Hi Roidididki

The movie with Cornel Wilde you are thinking of is A Rhousand And One Nights. He was the genie from the lamp. It was the first movie I saw him in and thought he was the most handsome man.. He played Chopin in A Song to Remember and was in Forever Amber Oh his smile !!!!!!!!!

I remember John Hodiak, I liked him, too. He never did make it big tho. How about Tyrone Power in Zorro, John Payne, Deanna Durban, what a voice she had, oh I could go on and list more of my favorites and bore others to tell me to get lost. ...Have a good day in England as I will in New England ......Gloria

The Awful Truth, Penny Serenade, Mr. Lucky, or None But the Lonely Heart? All were among my favorites, along with those noted. But my very favorite, not for its quality, but for the costumes and youth (I think he was at his prettiest here) was Topper. I also LOVE the Cord being driven by Grant.

I have read many differing opinions on his talent, but he still remains one of my very favorites, along with James Cagney. Both could do comedy and drama so very seamlessly and seemingly effortlessly, imho, and that is a talent sorely lacking today.

basilisk

I haven't thought f the TOPPER movie in a long time..I think Grant was terrific in every movie he was in, from his youth to his later years. Jimmy Cagney could do it all! From the real tough guy to song and dance. I can't think of any of today's actors who can compare with either one of them.

Talking about song and dance, how about Ann Miller, Gene Kelly, Donald O'connor-----remember the talking mule series of movies?.. Oh there were some great entertainers.

Have a good day....Gloria

speaking of the TOPPER series william boyd need a name for his white horse his wife gracie loved the series TOPPER so that is how hopalong cassidys horse was named TOPPER mrs gracies boyd told me that story in 93 at the cowboy hall of fame in oklahoma city

Hi Little wall

That was some beautiful horse HOPPY had. Just finished BORDER BADMEN with Buster Crabbe.. He was so handsome. We have free Starz until the 17th and am getting my fill of westerns. Some good and some so-so but enjoy them all. Have a good day......Gloria

I always liked Mr. Lucky. I especially liked that banter that Cary Grant did.

Glori 31, ah you and i .. could go on forever.. . as you say.... boring others .. we all have our favourites?Isn,t it exciting in here?May see you in the mystery book discussion?

glor interesting you memioned buster crabbe in 1981 i was working part time at a radio station at lawton while at ft still buster came by one day and did some comericals for his swinning pool company he was in great shape for a OLD GUYlololo. just kidding he said he loved the westerns he made but they were very cheap he worked for prc he called them perrty rotten crap lolo he di al right in tv series about the french legend

Hi Rodininki,,,,,,I just sent what I was writing to you into the wild electronic space. Oh well It will not be the first or last time for that. Yes we sure do have our favorit actors and most of them are gone now. Some how the ones that are in movies today all seem to have the "pretty boy" image. and not much acting ability. Have a good evening. with the time difference it must be that for you now.........

Little wall, it is interesting to know that you have met some of the actors that were in the westerns. I think I remember Buster Crabbe from the old FLASH GORDON movie series. Boy that sure dates me!!!!!!! I watched an old Gene Autry movie last night. He was my mother's all time favorit. During WW2 when he went into the army there was a write up on him in the magazine section of the Sunday paper. She cut it out and put it in a frame. I have it now. So many times I was going to throw it away but thought of my mom and kept it. Have a good day.......Gloria

yes gene autry was a flying sgt or nco a enlisted man flying over the hump in india in ww2. most ofthem after the bwestern s gave out in 50s they tried tv some made it roy gene hoppy ect. most did not so they worked anywhere they could carv, ect.

if any one wants to know what ever happened to any off the western stars gals bad guys sidekicks let know beean hobby of mine all my life btw buster crabbe passed away in april 1983

Hi all, still enjoying Cary Grant here in Melbourne, tonight we see The Bachelor & the Bobby Soxer,sure to enjoy it again. Hoping they continue for many weeks to come. Grant was so debonair,sauve and what a voice, a real charmer. My favorites are still An Affair to Remember & North by Northwest. Love the oldies, the fake settings, especially in car & boat scenes, same backgrounds , no special effects, & the corny dialogue. Another of my favorites was Humphrey Bogart, not suave or debonair but for me he certainly had something. regards M.

My favorite Humphrey Bogart movie is a toss-up between African Queen and the REAL Sabrina.

Hi Texas Songbird

I agree with you about the REAL Sabrina. The remake was ok but lacked th

e Bogart charm..I always enjoy his movies, from the earliest to his last..

Little Wall, I have the Old Coral you listed on my favorite list and go back and go thru it bit by bit. For side kicks I loved Andy Devine. That voice of his was enough to make him stand out. Liked Tim Holt's side kick--Chico Rafferty. I don't know his real name but in those movies when he would rattle off his name and end it with Rafferty I would always chuckle. I liked Hoppy but never cared much for Roy.

take care Gloria

Glor31, Oh where are you pulling them from... Andy Devine... fantastic character actor.Mottled.. agree with you on fake sets they fascinate me.. specially when you see what cuurent movies are like e.g Private Ryan and Gladiator.Happy viewing!

hi andy devine when a young boy fell and lodged a stick in your throat caused his voice to sound like it did andy passed away in 1977. thin holt sickkick real name was richard martin he had a bout 7 names for his role half irshs and mexican. tim told me that richard was quite a ladys man on and off the screen he passed away in 1994

are you right! Bogey was sex incorporated. I liked the earlier movies, both the gangsta and the Bacall ones. I too like all the stuff you've mentioned, the fake rocks, the bogus backgrounds. But boy did they make up for it all with feeling, which is just about lacking for me in movies today. And the costumes, oh the costumes....Orry Kelly was to die for, imho.

Bogey, Grant, Stewart, Cagney, Raft, Robinson, Muni, March, Huston, Beery, Davis, Lombard, Stanwyck, Arthur, Colbert, Loy, Crawford, Barrymores, Powells (some of my favorites), and all the others from the '30s and '40s, nope they don't make 'em like that anymore.

C'mon, why don't you tell us what you really feel about those old time stars. (LOL)

Bogey sexy? Not to me. Terrific actor though.

How's everything in the Apple these days with your rich new Mayor?

Best from Mrs. Marty From and me.

Glor 31, do you mean the australian actor " CHIPS" Rafferty ? he is the only Rafferty I know of. He was in lots of B grade movies, as a side kick. If it was please let me know. Regards from Melbourne

I should put this in the music discussion, but I was afraid you two, might not be checking in there. In case you havn't seen this , "Window on the West" web site - take a look and I think you will both enjoy it. The music changes, but was playing, "Cool Water", while I was looking at the beautiful pictures. http://www.fetherbay.com/Midiwest.html

Hello all

Little wall. I remember the Foreign Leigon series you are talking about, but can't recall the name...MARTY? I want to call it Lives of the Bengal Lancers but I think that was a movie with Tyrone Power. Anyway, this series was show obiyr 50 miles outside of L.A. at a State Park known as Vasques Rocks. They had a fort with a false front and lots of the different sets. I can't exectly remember why or with who I went out there, maybe YMCA or something but we got to meet Buster Crabbe--juat a hi, how are you, do you like the show, hand shake kind of meeting---and watch some of the filming.

Vasquez Rocks are the same large cragy pointed spires seen often in the Zorro series as well as lots of other movies and TV shows for a desert setting. For a more foothills open plain kind of setting they often used Corragin Ville owned by Ray Crash Corrigan and just over the hills from Chatsworth Ca.

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Menziesii

Clarence Linden "Buster" Crabbe starred, in 1955, in "Captain Gallant of the French Foreign Legion." Also in the series was his son Cullen "Cuffy" Crabbe.

I see they permanently killed the old mysteries.com boards, eh? Ah well, and so it goes.

LOL, I wouldn't think you'd find Bogey sexy as I do. Oh yes, he had that bassett hound face that Lionel in As Time Goes By does, very endearing, very erotic. Again, to me.

Don't like the new mayor's face and thus don't let him stay long enough on my teevee screen to judge him. Seems a phoney, and I deSPISE phonies.

Best to you both as well.

I looked up Chips Rafferty. His real name was John William Goffage; he was born in 1909 in New South Wales and died in 1971 of a heart attack. He made 26 movies. The first was Dad Rudd, M.P. in 1940. The last was Outback in 1971.

Basilisk, You sure recall some of the best names. Makes me stop and think about them and the enjoyment they gave to all of us. Barbars Stanwyck was a beautiful woman even in the last thing I saw her in....the Thornbirds. She aged beautifully.

Mottled....Chips Rafferty was the name of the character he played. Little Wall just said his name was Richard Martin.....

Marilyne...That is a neat site. My seakers not working but the are beautiful. will have to get back to it when I get new speakers.

Texas Songbird,,the name Chips Rafferty was the name of the Character not the actor. Sorry I gave you and Mottled the wrong idea. If you read Little Walls posting above you will see his real name.

I saw a good old Western last night with Errol Flynn,Alan Hale,Olivia DeHavilland,Ann Sheridan( little bit part) Ward Bond and Bruce Cabot who was the bad guy. 1939 film......Dodge City. I just love old movies where the action was good and the fighting had a reason, not shooting everything and everyone in sight. Phoney scenery, hammy acting and all the actors did a better job of it...see you all later....Gloria

songbird is right not the sidekick to tim holt he was richard martin he was under contract to rko in his films do know robert michum was used in ww2 when tim was in the miltary as a b western star at rko if anyone is interested i can give you a title of a good book about tim holt. on the v rocks and corriganville i could send you a web site on movie making locations it any interested

Hello all

MFM. I was pretty sure you would know the correct title and I was pretty sure I had the wrong one.

Thanks Marty.

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Menziesii

Have to agree with Texas Songbird re "Chips Rafferty."

According to my research (in The Film Encyclopedia) that was the professional acting name of John Goffage, not a character's name that he played in a film. Just like "Cary Grant" was the professional acting name of Archie Leach, and not the name of a character he played in a film.

Menzies: You're welcome. Call on me anytime...I'm in the book.

his name may not mean anything to you but William Witney passed away march 17 if you watched the counless bwesterns and serials of th late 30s 40s and 50s he was the director for rep. pictures john ford said he was the b est action director there ever was he could a actor horse or a stagecoach to do what he wanted

Hi all from Melbourne, Australia. Tonights treat on our free to air T,V is another Cary Grant oldie. " Every Girl Should be Married " Hope I enjoy it as much as the others I've seen recently. It is a treat to get a series of oldies, week after week. There is something to look forward to, apart from the usual junk, we seem to get. How corny it all seems now. But give me Cary, Bogey, Jimmy Stewart or Spencer any day. My grandchildren can keep their Brad Pitt & George Clooney.

Hello Mottled........I agree with you about the old movies, some may be corney but they are still better than some of the ones out now. Last week I watched an old wester with John Wayne. It was his first starring role and he really was corny but he was THE DUKE . The name of it was The Big Trail made in early 30s. I could go on and on about the actors I have enjoyed over the years. Enjoy your Grant movies, I know I always do. Take care.......Gloria

hi i saw the duke in true grit again last nite great western

Some very good, "oldies", on today and tonight.

AMC: Playing at 2:30 PST, is a movie that really made an impression on me when I was a little girl. Probably thanks mostly to the "Giant Squid" at the end! I've always loved it, and plan to watch it again today. Reap the Wild Wind, 1942. It's a Cecil B. DeMille classic, with a great cast: Ray Milland, John Wayne, Paulette Goddard, Susan Hayward, Robert Preston and Raymond Massey. At 5:00 PST, On the Waterfront, and at 7:00, The African Queen.

TCM: The original Mutiny On the Bounty, 1935, is on at 5:30 PST. IMO, this movie version of the book is rhe best - with Charles Laughton and Clark Gable.

The Mystery Channel: A great Hitchcock movie from, 1945, Spellbound, starring Ingrid Bergman and Gregory Peck.

I hope some of you watched one of the old Academy Award, winners that I mentioned yesterday? I watched Reap the Wild Wind, and enjoyed it as usual. Hokey and overacted by today's standards, but fun to watch. (John Wayne, playing a "bad guy"!)

The best of the bunch (IMO), was The African Queen. I never tire of those great performances by, Bogey and Hepburn. What a fabulous movie, that never seems dated in any way. Although I didn't watch the others, I would have like to see , On the Waterfront, again. Another one that has aged well.

Hello all

Unless you live in the broadcast area for KCBW, public broadcasting in Seattle, you missed the showing of one of Roger Corman's great? monster flicks. Stayed up till 3 in the AM watching "Wasp Woman"
Early on Sunday mornings our local PBS station shows old "B" movie classics such as the above and the likes of "She Devils" with Irish MaCall, House of Wax, Plan 9 from Outer Space, The Leopard Man, The Cat People, Attack of the Crab Monsters, Attack of the Mayan Mummy,etc. All of the greats?


What more could you ask for...a couple of beers, sardines and hot sause and a great "B" movie.

Does it get any better?

I'll go back to my cage now.

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Menziesii

Menziesii! - A Roger Corman fan! You've inspired me to sit down and at last, take a look at my big STACK of R.C.'s movies! My daughter works for Roger, at New Concorde Video, down in LaLa Land. (No, she's not one of the girls in his movies - just works in the office!) Right now I have, Battle Queen 2020 "Ready for Battle - Dressed to Kill!"! Also Fire on the Amazon, and Not of this Earth. I'm going down to visit her next week, and will see if she has a copy of, Wasp Woman. I've never taken much of an interest in his films, but on your recommendation, I'll take a look!

Hello all

Marilyne....I do hope you are kiding. There is not room in my cage for two. Didn't the beer and sardines tell you anything.

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Menziesii

Menzie - I'm not kidding! Move over, and pass the sardines and beer! I just found another of my, Roger Corman "classics". Rock 'n Roll High School, featuring, The Ramones. I'm just pleased that someone else out there knows who RC is! When I tell people that my daughter works for him, they just look at me with a blank face and say - "Roger who?"

Hello all

Marilyne. Roger Corman has been one of my favorites for a long time. I also like the work of Ray Harryhausen. The exploytation, sexploytation, cult , and "B" classics of the fifties and early sixties were a film genre all their own. The took in every class of movie, western, scary, monster, teen, drama and comedy. In many ways they provided a means of survival for the neighborhood movie houses and definatly the local drive- in. The were a part of the fifties and sixties that some wish to forget and some remember with various degrees of fodness, but no one growing up during that time can say that they have not experienced.

You may find the following sites of interest.
http://sepnet.com/rcramer/bsjane.htm
http://hammerfanatic.tripod.com/kimispages/id2.html
http://www.cinemaweb.com/sinister/corman.html
http://www.aboyd.com/harryhausen/
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/judidench/584/


Best...tonight it's beer and chocolet-chip cookies.

Menziesii

yes in the late 50s early 60s even some bwestern stars was in them tim holet johhning mack brown ect even lash lalue dia a sexy wesern called hard on the trail

Hi all, just checked T.V guide & this week it's Cary Grant in Mr.Lucky with Charles Bickford. Should be a treat, as I havn't seen Charles in a movie for ages. Can't remember the last one. As I don't have cable & we only have 5 free to air channels we don't see many Oldies, so I make the most of what they do show. Sorry to hear of the death of Dudley Moore, he will be remembered for the talent he was. Wonderful Comic,& a great pianist. Especially loved him in Arthur with the great Sir John Gielgiud.( not sure of the spellling )Although never thought of him as a Sex symbol. Till next time regards from Melbourne Australia.

Milton Berle died today, too.

Hi Mottled----Last night I watched FATHER GOOSE with Grant and Leslie Caron. It had some good laughs in it, and Grant was the straight faced one getting them. It was on TCM---Turner classic movies----. I am so glad I do have cable, extended basic and have TCM and AMC that show old movies with no commercials.. I am glad you are able to get some of those good "oldies". Take care Gloria

Father Goose is one of my all-time favorite movies and is probably my favorite Cary Grant flicks. My favorite line is "Goody Two-Shoes and the filthy beast?" said in an incredulous tone after Leslie Caron and Cary Grant (who have been at each other's throats the whole movie) suddently announce they want to get married. (Obviously, he called her "Good Two-Shoes" and she called him "the filthy beast.")

Hello all

Tonights great late movie is "White Zombie" with Bela Lugosi. (1932) The Music was done by Xavier Cugat in his very early days...way before the cochi cochi girl Charo...saw her in Vegas in "79.

Forgot to pick up any more sardines today so it will have to be...?...maybe a chocolet muffin and beer. Yum, Yum.

Marilyne, I will let you know what I think of this flick, not an R.C. but a truly great? movie all the same.

Best

Menziesii

This week's offering from Cary Grant Movies is "Bringing up Baby" with Hepburn, should be a treat. They are also showimg Adam & Evelyn with Stewart Grainger & Jean Simmons. Easter Monday they showed Easter Parade with the one & only Judy Garland, & Fred Astaire. We are also getting The Wizard of Oz. So it's a good week for the oldies.

I am in London for Easter,and today is a special concert with an original 1937 organ,together with a Laurel and Hardy movie,is this an April Fools Day poster?Is a long time since I sat in a cinema with an organ.......about 50years!!!!Wow!

MOTTLED---BRINGING UP BABY is great like all of Grants movies At one time there was a lot of Grant movies on AMC and I taped most of them. Did you see him in the Philadelphia Story ? I still like I WAS A MALE WAR BRIDE. Cary Grant in drag. Enjoy those old movies. The language is clean and all the family can watch them.....Gloria

WHO CAN REMEMBER WHO SAID "THATS ANOTHER FINE MESS YOU GOT ME INTO"SOME OF THE FUNNIEST COMEDYS EVER MADE.THE FIRST OF THE COMEDY PARTNERS.THE TIE TWIDDLING AND THE TRIPLE TAKES.

THE MOVIES GRANT MADE COULD FILL EVERY POST SITE HERE I LIKED "NONE BUT THE LONLY HEART" MR. BLANDINGS BUILDS HIS DREAM HOUSE TOPPER,PENNY SERENADE I WAS A MALE WAR BRIDE NIGHT AND DAY GUNGA DIN ARSNIC AND OLD LACE MY FAV. WIFE HIS GIRL FRIDAY SUSPICION NOTORIOUSTO CATCH A THIEF NORTH BY NORTHWEST PHILL. STORY DESTINATON TOKYO OPERATION PETTICOAT MONKEY BUSSINESS PEOPLE WILL TALK AFFAIR TO REMEMBER MANY MORE OH MAE WEST LIL CHICKIDEETHE BISHOPS WIFE? HOUSE BOAT FATHER GOOSE TOUCH OF MINK CHARADE THE MORE THE MERRIER THERES STILL MORE HE ALSO MADE MOVIES IN ENGLAND ELIMATE CHICKADEE IT WAS SHE DONE HIM WRONG I'M NO ANGEL

I THOUGHT I READ A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAST PICTURE CHARLES BICKFORRD MADE THE LAST ONE I SAW WAS THE DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES

BEERCROP----You mention so many of Grant's movies. I think I have seen all of them. I also always liked Jimmy Stewart. He was alwasys so gtraight faced and hardly ever smiled. It didn't seem like acting with him, he always was so natural. Who of the new crop of actors can hold a torch to the ones we always enjoyed so much. I do like Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington, Don't care for the ones who are just "pretty faces". Edward G Robinson and Bogart were not handsome by any means but were great.

saw 2 great films last nite H BOGART in across the pat. also stewart in SAC made in 1955 during the cold war asi as stationed at 2 sac bases at one time i loved it

Tonight's offering of Oldies is Cary Grant & Jane Wyatt in None But The Lonely Heart. As I haven't seen this for a while it's sure to be enjoyable again. Still enjoy the oldies. Last week watched a movie I had taped a few days earlier, & would have been embarrased if someone had come to the door, while it was on. The gratuitous sex & the nowdays accepted language grates. Some can't get through a sentence without swearing. The oldies where they had single beds, no sex, nudity & I have read the Actors had to have one foot on the floor during bedroom scenes. Sounds prudish, but I am a really with it person & love lots of the new movies, but feel that things are a bit overdone now. The only thing I squirm at in the Oldies is the amount of cigarettes they smoked. It seems to have been a prerequisite to be a smoker to be in the movies. Anyhow, keep on enjoying all the movies.

A few good, "oldies". on during the day today.

TCM: At 11a.m., PDT, Body and Soul. John Garfield - 1947. I don't remember much about it at all, except that it's reputed to be one of his best. I may take a look.

Also on TCM later this afternoon, is Boys Town, 1938, with Spencer Tracy, playing Father Flannagan.

The Western Channel, has a movie on at 12 noon (PDT) that I remember liking when I saw it in a movie theater back in 1966. Big Hand For the Little Lady, with Henry Fonda and Joanne Woodward.

However, I won't be watching that one today, because one of my, ALL TIME, favorite musicals is on at 12:30. Bye Bye BirdieI Outstanding performances by everyone - Dick Van Dyke, Maureen Stapleton, Ann Margaret, Janet Leigh - and Paul Lynde! My favorite scene - when he sings, "Kids"! Also, I like "Ed Sullivan", and the telephone scene, the dance numbers, etc. Just an all around entertaining musical from 1963. It always puts me in a happy mood, which I can use at the moment!

Why can't you watch BOTH? Don't you have a VCR so you can tape one?

I guess I've spoiled myself -- I have five VCR's attached to three different TV sets so that Mrs. Me and I never watch anything live anymore.

Anyways..."A Big Hand for the Little Lady" is one of my all-time favorites. It really isn't a true "Western"; more like "The Sting" set in the old west. A great great cast (Fonda, Joanne Woodward, Burgess Meredith, Paul Ford, Jason Robards, Charles Bickford and Kevin McCarthy), lots of comedy and that great twist ending.

Like the man says: "They don't make 'em like that anymore."

Marty: I'm impressed - five VCR's and three TV sets! We only have one VCR, attached to the "good" set in the living room. But it's an old one, so won't record when you are watching something else at the same time. The other TV in the bedroom has no VCR, and also is not connected to the digital cable, so I don't get as many movies on that one. I keep saying I'm going to get a DVD player, but so far I havn't even looked at them.

I did watch Bye Bye Birdie, today, and enjoyed it as much as ever. As I said above, I look forward to Paul Lynde and Maureen Stapleton, singing, "Kids" . Love those lyrics - it still seems timely!

Hello all

Just finished up watching one of my all time fav's, Fail Safe,on TCM. Three other fav's are Seven days in May, Dr. Strangelove and Wargames. I know I'm a morbid type.

Tonight's late night treat is "The Atomic Brain." Ohhh.
Picked a fresh can of sardines, got my beer, I'm ready.
I found out that this flick is played at 9 p.m. and replayed at 1:30 a.m. so I am going to record it and watch it after boxing.
Then at 1;a.m. if I don't like the Brain I can catch Wild Bill Elliott western on the western ch. What a night.

Best

Menziesii

fail safe, 7 days & strangelove were eerie I didn't get over the end of FAIL SAFE for weeks lugosi was silly he never scared me THE EXORCIST scared me! Did you ever see PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE? 1959 when all the dumb sci fi movies were made IT was LUGOSI'S LAST IT WAS WRITTEN & DIR. BY ED WOOD EVER HEAR OF WOOD?hE WAS VOTED THE WORSE WRITER&DIR EVER OF ALL TIMES. iT IS SO BAD YOU LAUGH YOURSELF TO DEATH 1997 A MOVIE WAS MADE NAMED ed wood JOHNNY DEPP PLAYED WOOD MARTIN LANDAU WAS LAGOSI AND THEY BOTH WON AWARDS FOR THE MOVIE CAN YOU FIGURE?

ARE YOU THE mottled from the chat site?

are you from the U K? I THINK ONE IF NOT THE BEAST ACTOR FROM THERE WAS MY FAV ROBET DONAT HE DID QUITE A FEW MOVIES MR CHIPS MAGIC BOX TARTU CITIDEL HENRY V111 VACATION FROM MARRIAGE THE WINSLOW BOY? I KNOW THERES MORE HE HAD A NASAL VOICE BUT I LOVED IT AND HIS SERIOUS LOOKS ROBERT DONART

IS MARTY on this site? oh oh i'm in trouble i posted a few things one after another i will not get on till at least the wk end here's 2 good movies HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY & A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN. & 13 RUE MADALINE WITH CAGNEY how about some female stars?IRENE DUNN NORMA SHEERER .

Marty used to be on this site, but you have made sure that he will no longer be, at least as long as you keep ignoring Discussion Leader Marilyn's previous post about proper posting etiquette.

Since you seem to have a compulsion to run amuck in order to show everyone how annoying you can be, you do not require my assistance in doing so.

So, Congratulations, you've got what you wanted...it's all yours.

Hey everyone - Let's get back to the business of old movies. I hope you ALL return, and help me to keep things running smoothly.

Starting here on the West Coast, at 9:30, PDT, is a movie that has always intrigued me. Hitler's Children, from 1942. Every time I see that it's on, I remember that my mother would NOT let me go to see it in the theaters, when it was playing, back during WWII. (I won't be able to watch it today either - darn!) While looking at the TV Menu this morning, I noticed that Tim Holt, is in it. Remember, a few months ago, we were talking about him in this discussion?

Also on later this morning are two oldies that some of you may enjoy seeing again. Both at 11 a.m., PDT. On the Love Channel, Doris Day and Rock Hudson in Pillow Talk, 1959 - and at the same time on the Mystery Channel, is the original, Ocean's 11, with Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, etc.

I don't remember if it was this discussion group or another entertainment one on SN, but finally saw Last of the Blonde Bombshells last night and LOVED it! Wow! What a great movie.

Hello all

Beercrop. Yes I have seen Plan 9. It was amoung the very worst.


Also amoung the very worst was last wkends "Atomic Brain." Thanks be to horse&%*# and gunpowder, cause the Wild Bill Elloit movie was pretty good. Called "Across the Sierras," but took place in Colorado...thats "B" westerns for you.

Mr. Marty. Please come back and play.

Best

Menziesii

Thanks, but no thanks.

Some other time perhaps.

yes tim holt was in H C i also saw wild bill they never know where the states were in ture grit they put the rockies in oklahoma lololo

Hello all

Mr. Marty. Best and take care.

Little wall. The western channel shows quite alot of Tim Holt movies. I have been hoping for some with Tim McCoy, Ray Hatten and the most for some old Wallace Berry movies.

Best

Menziesii

BEERCROP--you asked if I was from the UK. No I am from NEW ENGLAND.

MARILYNE--I remember seeing Hitlers Children. I saw it when I was young but didn't really know what it was about. I have seen it on TV and thought it was a great film to show how crazy Hitler was, the things those young people went thru was terrible.

MENZIESii--I thought Wallace Beery was one of my favorites. So gruff with a heart of mush. Another one I always enjoyed was Victor McLaglen(sp). The fight He and John Wayne had in the QUIET MAN is one fight that had me laughing.

This is my first time in your discussion area, and I just wondered whether or not anyone remembers Sunset Carson. When I was ten, I had a cast on my left leg from the toes to the knee, (got hit by a car). Every Saturday morning the Homewood Theater in Baltimore had a double feature and serial for 12 cents. My favorite serial was Nioka of the Jungle. Anyway, I had a terrible crush on Sunset Carson and convinced my mother that I could make the six block walk on crutches with no problem, even though a light snow had begun to fall. I stayed to see Sunset Carson twice, which you could do in those days, while eating several boxes of Good & Plenties. By the time I started home, about a foot of snow had fallen. I made it to within a block of home, dragging a soggy cast packed with wet snow behind me, slipping and sliding, my left toes turning purple from the cold. There was a huge pile of plowed snow blocking access to the street I needed to cross. About that time, a kind of rough looking gang of teenage boys came walking toward me, and I was convinced for some unfathomable reason that they were going to take my crutches and leave me to perish in the snow, with my last thoughts focusing on Sunset Carson, of course, as I boldly gave my life to see him one last time at the movies, <smile>. There were about six boys, and without ever speaking a word, one took my crutches and two others lifted me over the snow bank at the curb and deposited me safely on the other side. Then they went on their way. From that day to this, I have associated Sunset Carson with the silent, heroic deeds of ordinary people. Just wanted to share that memory with fellow movie lovers.

Love your site,

Frances

Today is Shirley's 73rd birthday! Hard to believe, isn't it. Because she lives here in the S.F. Bay Area, the local radio station gave a little tribute, in her honor, this morning. They played a song from the movie, Stowaway, that starred Shirley, along with Robert Young and Arthur Treacher. I don't remember that movie? The song, (sung by her of course), is a cute one, called, "Goodnight, My Love". (which i did recognize.)

anyone rem. a movie called VALLEY OF DECISION with Greg Peck & Greer Garson?

BEERCROP" Yes, and it was a delighful movie too. Babs

yes sunset carson passed away in may 1990 in reno nev

Yes Beercrop remember the movie, I loved Greer Garson & Gregory Peck but loved her especially in "Mrs Minerva " think it was with Walter Pigeon, they made some great movies together, they sure don't make them like it anymore, mores the pity. Was she in "How Green was my Valley "? seem to think she was, there were so many they made together, perhaps you can refresh my memory for me. Regards from Australia. Nice to Chat with you too !!!!

Looks like a few good, golden "oldies", on today, for us to enjoy. I just took a look at the Movie Menu, and there are a couple that I hope to watch.

TMC - 11 AM, PDT, "The Lost Weekend" - award winning performance by Ray Milland. This one will sure make you lose interest in Happy Hour! He does a good job of portraying an alcoholic, but I think ,"Days of Wine and Roses", with Jack Lemmon, is better.

Also on TMC, later this afternoon (5 to 7 PDT) is "Pal Joey", 1957, with Frank Sinatra, Kim Novak and Rita Hayworth. I know I must have seen this, because I love musicals, but I don't remember it at all?

AMC - "The Manchurian Candidate", 1962, is on at 2:45 this afternoon. A great book, made into a great movie! If you havn't seen this, try to watch it, or tape it for future viewing. Angela Lansbury, does an amazing job as the evil mother.

Fox Movies, is showing "Daisy Kenyon", 1947, this morning at 11:00, PDT. I vaguely remember this one, but it sounds good - Joan Crawford, Dana Andrews and Henry Fonda.

IFC (Independent Film Channel) - The always entertaining, "Harold and Maud", is on today at 12:30. Lots of good movies on this channel for those of you who subscribe to the full cable. .

I LOVE Harold and Maude! I especially like Ruth Gordon. I wrote a column once, when my oldest son was expecting my first grandchild, trying to decide what kind of grandmother I wanted to be. I named several famous celebrity grandmothers at the time (Liz Taylor, Shirley MacLaine, Dina Merrill), but concluded that I wanted to be like Ruth Gordon. And it turns out that I AM a lot like her. Especially in the sense of one quote I read once. I can't remember the exact words, but the gist was that her children said they never knew where she was or what she was doing!

NO MOTT that was Maureen O Hara & Pigeon Donald Crisp John Loder Roddy Mcdowell Songbird I'd pick Dina Merril Her mom was Merriweather Post her dad Hutton she must have lots of Bucks

What was Joan Crawfords movie with Zack Scott Ann Blythe & Jack Carson anyone see SUMMER & SMOKE? with Geraldene Fitzgerald & laurence Harvey All about Eve,? Excalabra?& theres one with Julie Andrews & jack Lemon?The candidate was like Fail safe Deep.i liked Erma Laduce not spelled right Lemon & Mclaine. See Marilyn trying to keep it in one post!Loved Hayworth in Gilda Garson in Adventure with Gable.He was great in it happened one night maybe better than GWTW. his part.

being an 8yr old when ww2 started i must mention my favorite disney film SNOW WHITE till today i still think it was his best anamated film maybe because i was a little girl and believed some day my prince would come?or SOME ENCHANTED EVENING? Live Happly Ever After

Hello all

Beercrop. Fantasia has alway been my favorite Disney animation. My wife prefers Alice in Wonderland. Few, I feel, will argue that all of the Disney animations are amount the very best creative artwork ever done.

Best

Menziesii

BEERCROP - "Snow White", is the first movie I remember seeing. I was about 3, I think. I was terrified of the Wicked Witch, and every time she came on screen, I hid under my seat at the movie theater. LOL! But I was fascinated with the story and the music. I knew all the words to, "Someday My Prince Will Come". (I'm still waiting! )

Menzie - I have a special love for the movie, "Fantasia" - a personal story attached to it, but I will spare you all the details! It will always be my Disney favorite, but I loved all of the early Disney movies. Remember, "Pinocchio"? That was one of the best also.

Hello all

Oddly, for some reason "Pinocchio" has never been one of my favorites. Not sure why? Of course I haven"t seen it in many a year and maybe when I was young it was just too involved. There were several different plot lines in the film and for the young much to try to understand and put together. I must admit though, that to this very day Jimminy(sp?) Cricket it one of my favorite people. Loved his skits on the Mickey Mouse Club and on Disneyland. Also loved the music of Ukalayliaye Ike, but can't remember his real name. I also get him confused with the little old man who lived in the basement of Dennis Day's apt. building. He was often on Hollywood Squares.???? Opps...Tv in movies.

Best

Menziesii

Did anyone else watch "Breakfast At Tiffany's" last night? I love that movie so much that I've about memorized all the lines, but I ended up sending an email to AMC. Not only did I complain about the ads they are now interrupting the movies with, but I let them know how disgusted I was with that "hostess", or whatever she was supposed to be, named Grrl Genius. She was embarrassingly unamusing and we don't need idiot adolescents making snide remarks about movies that were classics long before they were born!

OK...off my soapbox!

Love...Kate

I have stopped watching ANY movies on that channel since they started inserting commercials in the films.

It IS a damned shame how they destroyed what used to be a great channel, back when knowledgable gentlemen like Bob Dorian and Nick Clooney were the hosts.

But money, as usual, talks and we "old geezers" no longer count...they need these young punks to host in order to attract a more "desireable" audience of youths.

Off MY part of the soapbox too.

Katie - Even without the obnoxious presense of, "Grrl Genius", I've been getting fed up with AMC in recent months. Not only for breaking up the movies with commercials, but also for showing too many recent movies - made in the 80's or 90's. If I want to see a recent movie - there are dozens of other channels to choose from. I want AMC to remain strictly a Golden Oldies channel, hosted by people with maturity, dignity and knowledge. I also emailed them today, and told them how disappointed I am. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are all correct. However, emailing won't help. They, like A&E, are marching to the bottom line, and money matters, viewers do not. I many moons ago stopped my subscription to their magazine when they cut way back on the b/w classic movies. I called them to let them know, and they said they would refund the balance of my subscription, and no, they had no plans to return to the old format.

This was BEFORE they started accepting advertising so we can add them to the lineup of "used to be good" channels. I still haven't gotten a TV dish, and since my monopolistic cable channel doesn't carry TCM, I spend a great deal of time reading or talking to my dog.

And so it goes.

Haven't heard from you in a dog's age.

My only question is -- When you talk to your pooch, just what does Fido answer you? (Woof-Woof? Or Arf-Arf?)

Yes, AMC is a dog now (sorry, couldn't resist.) And you are, of course, correct ~ the bottom line is the bottom line. But then, what else is new?

Boy do I agree with all of you. For a long time amc was "MY" channel of choice. The the good old movies seemed to dissapear and they started showing movies that I wouldn't waste my time on and the commercials started up with jerks as hosts. So the only good movie channel is TCM. Thank goodness I can get that one.I love when they have the old silent movies on. Money is the name of the game on amc and I do not turn it on any more.......Gloria

Marty, my dog thinks the sun rises and sets with me, so whatever we say to each other is in total agreement..........lol, have you SEEN Ozzy Osbourne? Wild show, wild man, BUT he is a major dog lover and I think his show is hilarious!

Gloria, you are absolutely correct. My question......so who IS watching AMC? Do they think they are getting the 'younger' demographic? Or are they? For that matter, IS A&E getting the 'younger' audience? I really would like to know. A&E never answered me, so I wouldn't waste my time asking AMC. But yes, I bypass their channel as if they have fleas. I envy you your TCM, Turner after all DID manage to buy up ALL the excellent old Warner Bros. movies that I so loved. Money talks, et cetera, et cetera.

"My dog thinks the sun rises and sets with me."

I guess, then, that your dog is a "setter" (groan).

"Have you seen Ozzy Osbourne?"

No, why...is he missing (groan)?

Sorry about those...I'm more in my punny Fozzie (Bear, that is) mode than in my Ozzy.

basilisk - Too bad you don't get TCM. By far the best vintage movie channel on TV. Mine is included on the full digital cable, which includes channels such as BBC, Sundance Film Festival movies, and Independent Movie channel, Westerns, etc. Also there is a new one that is owned by Fox, that I havn't watched much yet. It looks like it's mostly oldies, in black and white, but I'm not positive? Oh yes - almost forgot the LOVE channel! Ridiculous name, but it's OK - shows mostly love stories such as "Splendor in the Grass", etc.

A few movies worth watching today:

This morning: Guys and Dolls is on Showtime, The Misfits, on TCM, and Hud, on AMC.

This afternoon: Sophies Choice. Not very old, (l970's), but such a worthwhile movie. Kevin Kline is incredible. Also on this afternoon, Life Begins for Andy Hardy, and, The Birds.

Early evening: Where the Red Fern Grows - also early 1970's, but has an old look to it. Takes place during the depression. Good performances by James Whitmore and the boy who plays the lead. Finally, Royal Wedding - Fred Astaire and Jane Powell.

If you'd also list my local channels, I could cancel my subscription to TV Guide.

Yahoo's TV guide is pretty good and can be tailored to your own area.

http://tv.yahoo.com/ Click on "Local Listings at the bottom to set up your area.

Many thanks for that link.

I was, of course, only kidding Marilyn, but I checked out your site and it was indeed very helpful.

Again, thanks.

There are so few god movies being released today - except for a few art houses here and there, where you can see some terrific ones from indi producers (try Sexy Beast if you see it anywhere - it is amarvelous throwback to film noir (but i color).

So I subscribed to full digital - and it's incredible how long they keep showing some of the new dogs. And I DO mean dogs. I am so sick and tired of teen-oriented movies, featuring nerd after nerd - and bad taste galore - that I almost light up with joy when I find even a martial arts movie. At least they make no pretensions to anything other than pure, raw action - and they are quite amusing. How low we have sunk!

BUT ------- the other night, I saw the new director's cut of Apocalypse Now. I had forgotten that is loosely based on Conrad's Heart of Darkness -- but Sheen gives a wonderful performance - Brando was just begining to puff up like a balloon but gave a marvelously understated, internalized performance -- an ugly film, but kicked like a mule And was some commentary on the Viet Nam war.

Tonight, HBO is debuting Path to War - the Lyndon Johnson story of how the war expanded -- but not why. I friend at a local paper invivted me to a preview screening about a week ago, and I was amazed. The film goes on for three hours - and doesn't give ANY insight into why Johnson - such a keen politician and a master of the use of power - and who could have gone down as a giant - was so bamboozled by McNamara and Rostow. Nor does it show why THEY were so hipped on escalating either. A waste of time!

Marty - I didn't follow through, by watching any of my, "Saturday Suggestions", above. I fully intended to sit back and enjoy, "Royal Wedding", but instead made the mistake of tuning in the Barry Manilow special - The Ultimate Manilow! I've always kinda liked Barry, and was hoping he would sing some of the things on his newer albums - "Songs from the Movies," or, "Singin' With the Big Band". But unfortunately, he stuck with the old familiar Manilow, formula, that people expect from him - like "Mandy", "Copacabana", etc.

The thing that struck me most about the show, was that the manic, screaming audience of "beautiful people", looked exactly like the audience shown last week for the American Bandstand, special! Obviously, audiences are HANDPICKED, nowadays for looks, screamability, etc.

I just realized that this message should be in either, TV or Music, so I'll probably cut and paste into those discussions.

Last night I watched a great John Wayne movie - True Grit, from, l969. I believe it was on The Western Channel, but not sure? Excellent performances by Wayne, and Glen Campbell, with good character roles for Dennis Hopper, and Robert Duval. Kim Darby, who played Mattie, was perfectly cast, and did such a good job. I don't think she was ever in a film of much significance after this one? I'm not a John Wayne fanatic, but every so often I see one that makes me remember why he was, and still remains, one of the most popular of actors of all time.

You seem to be talking to yourself here.

There are two films on late tonight-early tomorrow that I'll recommend to you (or anyone who may be silently lurking around here):

1-"Those Lips, Those Eyes" (The Movie Channel, 2:30 A.M. EDT, Tuesday, May 28.) A wonderful film from 1980, starring Frank Langella as a second-rate stage performer stuck in summer stock, but hoping for a Broadway break, and Tom Hulse as a young local trying to break into show biz. A funny, but poignant "little" film.

2-"Attack" (Turner Classic Movies, 3:30 A.M., EDT, Tuesday,, May 28.) A terrific b&w war film about heroism and cowardice during the Battle of the Bulge in WW2. Great performances by Jack Palance, Buddy Ebsen, Lee Marvin and Eddie Albert. Three Thumbs Up!

I think one of my favorite John Wayne movies was one of his early ones, Angel and the Badman, with Gail Russell. Actually, I just looked it up, and it wasn't that early. But boy, he sure did look YOUNG in that movie! He made it in 1947 and it looks like it fell in sort of the middle of his 202 movies (although he was uncredited in the first 20 or so).

Anyway, in Angel and the Badman, he is an outlaw who is injured and who is nursed back to health by a Quaker family. He falls in love with the daughter of the family, but finds it hard to give up his old ways and his old friends. (But it's a John Wayne movie, after all, and we know that eventually he DOES give up his old ways and wins the girl!) Not your traditional western though. I think that's why I like it so much. But I thought Wayne gave a very nuanced performance.

To give you a better flavor, here are a couple of quotes from viewers of the movie on the Internet Movie Database:

"John Wayne never looked better on film then in The Angel and The Badman. In one scene, he wakes from a coma, hears a noise, gropes for his gun, which is under the pillow and rises, gun in hand to face a startled and stunning Russell. The sight of John Wayne, shirtless, his hair un-combed and his gorgeous, almost purple eyes taking in the lovely lady in front of him, is something no woman from 6 to 106 should miss."

AND

"But what ultimately makes this movie work is Wayne's performance, and Russell's natural "Angelic" qualities. The camera really loves her. There's one scene where she confesses her love for Wayne, and is surprised he doesn't feel quite the same: "I never thought it could happen to one and not another." Her outright innocence in this scene is incredibly touching, and endearing, and you see how this affects Wayne in the same way."

But I guess Angel and the Badman ties with The Quiet Man for my favorite John Wayne movie. A couple of other really good movies were McClintock and Shepherd of the Hills. What three of these four movies have in common is that they archtypical John Wayne.

Marty - Thanks for noticing! I talk to myself a lot these days - is that an ominous sign? Actually, I have better luck posting in the Golden discussions, than I do in others on SN. At least I get an occasional response here. If I venture out, and post in any other folders, I seem to immediately kill the discussion - and sometimes a month or more will pass before anyone posts anything. (totally unrelated to whatever I had to say of course! LOL!)

Thanks for suggesting the two movies. Both are ones that I have always wanted to see. Being as they're in the early a.m. hours, I'll try to remember to record!

Texas Songbird - Thank you for posting all the John Wayne reviews! I don't think I have ever seen, "The Angel and the Badman", but I'll be looking for it. The J.W. movies seem to cycle through the Western Channel, on a regular basis. You and Katie, can get together and talk about, "The Quiet Man" - her all time favorite! I am not fond of, "McClintock", and don't think I have ever seen, (or heard of), "Shepherd of the Hills"? My favorites are probably, "The Searchers", and the one mentioned above - "True Grit".

I wonder if they will ever release, "The High and the Mighty", to TV, or video? I recall seeing it in the l950's, when it was such a big hit. I wonder if it would seem dated and boring now, by today's standards?

Marilyn:

Re "The High and the Mighty":

I too would like to see that one again -- I remember it fondly (especially the Jan Sterling scene, where she deglamorizes herself by removing all her makeup, and the performance by Phil Harris), but chances of its being released look pretty bleak.

The rights to the film had been tied up in legal battles for years, but, about a year ago, I had read in the paper that they had been resolved and it was going to be released to TV and video that summer. Apparently it never happened.

Perhaps, since 9/11, the theme of an airliner in trouble is something they want to shy away from releasing.

I hope you did get to record at least one of those two films I recommended. If you did, please let me know what you thought of them (it).

glad you enjoy john wayne i just read a book on the life of howard hawks who made serval of his good book of behind the senes. btw angle andbadman was the last westen harry cary senior was ever in a b western star of the 20s and 30s

Today I'm learning to chat with you

Great idea of sharing experiences.

I thought that this discussion was very interesting, as well as being very informative.

The Three Stooges are my husband's favorite movies.

Welcome to, Irene, Clayton & June! Please return and join in on discussing your favorite old movies, or movie stars.

June - Why is it that men always like "The Three Stooges"? My husband will actually laugh out loud, while watching one of those silly shows - and I just sit there shaking my head in wonder! (wondering what's so funny!)

3 stooge's,have always enjoyed the timing and predictability of their work,does that say something about me? Last night I took out my tape of the "Out of Towners",with Sandy Dennis and Jack Lemon and my love and I enjoyed it once again,tonights selection is "The Housesitter" with Steve Martin and Goldie Hahn,I have started taping the TCM old black and white's for future enjoyment.

This "men" doesn't like the Stooges. Never have. I find their hitting-each-other, fingers-in-the-eyes humor very repetitive and very boring.

I never liked the Three Stooges either. I though the Ritz Brothers were much funnier -- more slapstick and less physical punishment than the Stooges.

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Mr. Marty & MortKail. I as well am not a fan of the stooges. I have always liked the Marx Brothers best, and the Ritz Brothers are very good as well. Was also a fan of Abbott and Costello.
I won't say I haven't spent a fair amount of time watching the Stooges, the wife loves them, and I have proubly seen every episode. But the Stooges are kinda like 'I Love Lucy," I watched the show, and still watch the show, and loved everybody in it except Lucy. After you've seen one Stooge episode, you've seen 'em all.
One Lucille Ball's earilest acting Jobs was In a Stooge episode about three football players and some "mob type" game betters. She was a blond in that one.

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A couple of (several)years back they ran many of the Harold LLoyd movies. I looked forward to these, which is unusual for me.

I'm shocked, shocked that nobody mentioned (in all the above posts re comedy teams) probably the greatest team of all --Laurel & Hardy.

They were hilarious in BOTH the silent and sound eras (in fact they did the SAME routine -- trying to get a piano up a loooong flight of steps -- in both silent and sound versions, and it was great both times.)

Abbott & Costello were popular for a relatively short period of time (mostly the 1940s war years and a little after), and Martin & Lewis were very big for a while, mostly in the early 1950s, but Stan & Ollie were funny for almost two full decades, until they got too old to be laughed at any longer (as was the case with Lucille Ball in her pathetic last TV sitcom attempt, when she was well into her 70s.)

Marty - Get ready to really be shocked! I have never - even once - seen, Laurel and Hardy! But, I will certainly make a point of it, the next time they are being featured on any of the oldies channels. I have never been crazy over any male comedy teams. (To me) They are all funny the first time around, but then get embarrassingly repetitive and silly. Applies to, Martin and Lewis, The Smothers Brothers, Marx Bros., or Abbott and Costello. A little bit goes a LONG way with me. However, I do think the male/female teams are much better. (Lucy & Desi, The Honeymooners, Fibber and Molly, etc.)

I am not only shocked...I am AMAZED by your admission of NEVER having seen L & H.

In any case, if you can only see ONE of their films, try to make it 1933's "Sons of the Desert." I think it is, by far, their BEST. It has more plot to it and a lot more gags.

Understand that their characters (in all their films) are that Stan (the skinny one) is a real dope and Ollie (the fat one) thinks that he is the smart one, but Ollie really is dumber than Stan (if that's possible.)

Ollie's trademark expression --to Stan -- is always: "Well, this is another fine mess you've gotten us into." And, Ollie is forever staring into the camera in exasperation, as if to tell the viewer: "See what I have to put up with."

Marty, I agree with you on Laurel and Hardy as the best long running comic team. I had enjoyed all their talkies when I was growing up. Then when one of my kids started collecting their silent films for his 8mm projector, we howled over them. I think my son had every one of their silent shorts in his collection (don't know where they are now).

\Menzies, I also agree that the Marx Brothers were the funniest in the short run. Groucho for his wit and Harpo for his pantamime, never quite enjoyed Chico though, except when he was at the piano. Even though they only made a half dozen movies, mostly based on thier stage shows and vaudiville skits, seing them again and again still brings new laughs. And Groucho was as whitty as ever in his TV show, "You Bet Your Life."

By the way, does anyone remember when Groucho's teen age daughter (Malissa?) appeared on You Bet Your Life, she brought her friend, Edgar Bergen's daughter. Even at 13 or 14 Candice Bergen was such a beauty, she made Malissa look like an ugly duckling.

Interesting article in the paper last week about an, American Film Institute, poll. The poll was taken by directors, writers, actors and other filmmakers, who were asked to name their favorite Romance movie, of all time.

Casablanca, topped the list at #1.
Just for fun, take a guess and see what you think some of the others were? Or better yet - name your favorite Romantic movie, and see if it's in the top 10?

One of my favorite romantic movies is Somewhere in Time.

I have so many and some are so oddball, I wouldn't know where to begin. It doesn't even have to be a whole movie, just watching stars whom I love interact with their female leads leaves me breathless. I can watch Fredric March with Carole Lombard in their screwball comedy Nothing Sacred and find it romantic. Or the movie Enchanted Cottage with the couple who was disfigured except in their cottage, and find that romantic. There are just so many. But yes, for major romance, Casablanca was tops. But I CAN'T believe Dodsworth was not included.

But Texas, I ADORED Somewhere in Time. Now, that is because I am in love with time travel, I personally want to be deposited in the Empire State Building in the year 1935. Have you read 'Time and Again'? A wonderful book if you like that sort of thing. But Somewhere in Time always makes me cry, especially as Chris Reeves was so perfect in it.

Long time no see your posts.

I too love "Casablanca", but not for the "love story." That ending (Rick sending Ilsa off with her hubby) kills the "romance" for me -- I love the pic for Rick, Senor Ferrari, Sasha, etc. etc., but especially for Louis (Claude Rains) who, in my opinion, steals the film with his cynical outlook and for being such a rouge ("I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on here.")

So you'd love to be in the Empire State Building in '35? Better to be there in '33, so you could see King Kong making out there with Fay Wray. Now THERE'S a romantic couple for ya, him grunting and her screaming.

Texas Songbird & basilisk - I agree with both of you, that, "Somewhere in Time", should be listed in the top ten However, I don't believe it was even included in the full list of 100 movies?

Marty - Seven of the top 10 films have couples that, in the end, do not stay together - as in "Casablanca". The really romantic movies don't necessarily have a happy ending.

Top Ten Most Romantic Films

1. Casablanca - 1942
2. Gone With the Wind -1939
3. West Side Story -1961
4. Roman Holiday - 1953
5. An Affair to Remember - 1957
6. The Way We Were - 1973
7. Doctor Zhivago - 1965
8. It's a Wonderful Life - 1946
9. Love Story - 1970
10.City Lights -1931


"It's a wonderful Life"? I love the movie, but I don't really consider it a romantic movie? I would replace that one with, "An Officer and a Gentleman", "The English Patient", or "Somewhere in Time".


Here is the AFI web site, that lists all 100 movies. Many I agree with, but some do not belong there, IMO. http://www.AFI.com/tv/passions.asp

I'd vote for Brief Encounter as one of the most romantic movies of all time. I'm surprised that it isn't on the top 10 list.

Phui. Titanic???????????????? Phui. The old couple staying together at the end in the British version put that entire DeCaprio farce to shame.

And no Dodsworth. Phui again.

Thanks for the list, Marilyne. I had read snippets but not the whole list.

Hi Marty. King Kong was downright risque in spots, at least the unedited version, if you've seen it. I find Casablanca romantic in a "big" way, but not tears welling up uncontrollably romantic. And of course I can't remember which films did this to me.

Oops, just remembered one.....you ready?.....Shrek. LOL, now THAT didn't make the list, did it?????.....=O)

basilisk -- Oh heck, Shrek,of course. How could one not love that exquisitely matched (at the end) pair of lovers?

And, Marilyn, if you find that unrequited love endings can be very romantic (i.e. "Casablanca"), then how about Hepburn (Kate) and Brazzi in "Summertime?" And, speaking of Brazzi, how about the ending of "The Barefoot Contessa?"

Nah! For me, I'll stick with the happy-ever-after type of "romantic" films, (not the sad endings ones), such as "Marty" and, yes basilisk, "Pretty Woman."

Can a film be romantic if it gives you the heebee jeebees?

Richard Gere and Julia Roberts (in that film, she's been better in others) made my skin crawl in "Pretty Woman". At any rate, I can't give any validity to the geniuses who put PW on the final list, when "Dodsworth" wasn't even considered.

I think the list should have been broken down into two separate categories - Romantic Drama, and Romantic Comedy. And - it looks ridiculous to see, "Singin' in the Rain", on that list, when it is really a musical comedy! Yes, there was romance in it, as there always is in any movie, but I would NOT classify it a "romance movie".

I'm starting to think of other romantic movies that were not listed. Besides the already mentioned, "Somewhere in Time" and "Brief Encounter" - what about "Ryan's Daughter"? That was a VERY romantic movie, I thought. Another one not mentioned is, "Zorba the Greek"? Oldies like, "A Place in the Sun", and, "Picnic", should have been up higher on the list.

Here's something that's been bugging me since I saw that list (and the TV show they did of it):

How come there are no gay couple romantic films on the list? Or even films that have two persons of the same sex in a romantic kind of situation (even if they may not be gay) such as in "Thelma and Louise?"

I mean, if a person is gay and likes the movies, isn't he, or she, being ignored by this list?

Marty - "Thelma and Louise" - a romantic movie? I don't think so! There was not a shred of romance in that movie - unless you count the quickie with Brad Pitt and whats-her -name. I wouldn't call that "romance", though- more like seduction.

As for a gay romance movie?? Sounds OK to me, but can you name one? I can't think of anything that would qualify? Wait a minute - I just thought of one that was GOOD - The Crying Game. I really liked that movie, and I think it should be on the list!

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An interesting movie, for the stand point of romance, as well as the general plot is "Electric Dreams." It has all of the right things. A guy, a gal, a big fiddle and a computer. If you havent seen it it is a movie worth watching. I am in agreement on "Casablanca." Acouple of other interest offers are "The African Queen" and "Rooster Cogburn. Another, maybe "His Girl Friday," but not sure if that was the name of not, but a Tracy/Hepburn comedy romance.

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This movie poped into my head just a bit ago. "Ladyhawk." It is a bit of a strange style love story, but a very good movie. It has good guys and gals, and bad guys, horses, lots of chopping and hacking, and a very different plot. Another movie, IMHO, well wworth watching.

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"His Girl Friday" is a Cary Grant/Roz Russell remake of "The Front Page."

Grant is sneaky newspaper editor Walter Burns, trying to con his ex-wife, ace reporter Hildy Johnson (Russell), into coming back to work for him and abandon her plans to marry stuffy insurance salesman Bruce Baldwin (poor Ralph Bellamy, who never seemed to manage to "get-the-girl.")

Perhaps the Tracy/Hepburn comedy you're thinking of is their first movie pairing, 1942's "Woman of the Year", in which they both play reporters on the same newspaper.

As Mrs. Marty just reminded me, there is indeed a gay-themed "romance" film: "The Boys in the Band."

And I was referring to the bond between Thelma and Louise themselves.

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Mr. Marty, you are correct, and now that you mention it I recall the movie as well as its remake with Carol Burnett and Jack Lemon.(?)

I also remember a Tracy/Hepburn film where Kate was a researcher for a newspaper of mag...maybe the same film?

Anyway thanks for the leg up.

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Mr. Menzies:

You are, of course, welcome.

Yes, Jack Lemmon was the star of the 1975 Billy Wilder remake, which was called "The Front Page" again as had been the original film of this story in 1931 (that one starred Adolphe Menjou as Burns and Pat O'Brien as Johnson.)

Lemmon was Hildy Johnson (back to a man in the role after changing it for Roz Russell in "His Girl Friday" in 1940), Carol Burnett played Molly (she was pretty awful -- she really chewed up the scenery) and Walter Burns was (who else with Lemmon in a Wilder film) Walter Matthau.

It wasn't anywhere near as good as the Grant/Russell effort.

As for Tracy & Hepburn: In "Woman of the Year" Tracy covered sports for the paper while, I believe, Hepburn wrote about world affairs. One of the funnier scenes had Tracy taking Hepburn to her first baseball game and trying to explain the game to her. The "research" angle you were thinking of may be from their film "Desk Set" in 1957, in which Hepburn is the head of a broadcast network's research department and Tracy is an efficiency expert secretly brought in to computerize the operation.

You can include: "Some Like It Hot" among the odd couples. When Jack Lemmon takes off his wig and tells Joe E. Brown "But I'm not a woman", Brown answers "Nobody's perfect". That was the start of a beautiful friendship, to borrow a line from Casablanca ... come to think of it, that also ends with two men going off together.

Not to change the subject, but I just found out that a GREAT 'little" movie is going to be on cable later tonight -- Catch It If You Can!!

It's the old b&w 1946 film called "The Verdict" (NOT the more recent Paul Newman one of the same title.) It stars Sydney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre and it is a mystery with a VERY surprise-twist ending.

It will be shown on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) tonight at 11:30 EDT.

I HIGHLY recommend it!

Marty - I watched, "The Verdict", last night, and enjoyed it very much. An excellent, old style, "whodunit" murder mystery. Sydney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre, are always a pleasure to watch. Lorre, was such an original - with his unique acting style, and that wonderful voice. He steals every single scene that he was ever in - in any movie.

Is the movie theater closed? Have they played "The Last Picture Show?" Where is everyone?

Hi Marty; I know it's raining down there and keeping you indoors. But we've been having beautiful weather in the Northeast, (not so beautiful in Arizona and Colorado, where they pray for rain to douse the fires), so we're all out enjoying the summer. When it rains, or gets too hot around here, (we're headed into the 90s today) action should pick up on these sites.

I've been mulling over another quiz, but I want to give someone else a chance. Mort

This looks like a highly entertaining oldie from l935, playing on TCM tonight at 10 PST. It's called Mad Love, and stars Peter Lorre and Frances Drake.

Here is the one sentence review in my, Sunday Movie Highlights. "A bald surgeon grafts a killer's hands onto the pianist husband of an actress he loves." Does that sound great, or what!

There's apparently a Wizard of Oz sing-a-long coming up on TCM, complete with bouncing ball and all!

Howdy, all. First timer here. Haven't even finished reading all the posts yet, but had to comment on the story from Frances H. I thought I mught be the only one who would remember Sunset Carson. One of my favorites, too, along with Charles Starrett as The Durango Kid (western copy of Zorro)and Don "Red" Barry.

There was a theare on Hollywood Blvd - right across the street from the famous Pantages, where Academy Awards were held for many years. Every Saturday I would go to see two westerns, a serial and cartoon. Sunset Carson made pix for Universal. Columbia did Durango Kid and Republic had Don "Red" Barry, who played Red Ryder in one movie, but not the serial in which Robert Blake got his start as Red's little Indian companion.

Loved Wild Bill Elliot, with his backwards holstered guns. William Boyd as Hopalong Cassidy with side-kicks Raymond Hatton and Russell (something) as Lucky Hayden. Always wanted to be him.

Remember "The Three Mesquiteers" (with thanks to Dumas)? That one went thru a series of cast changes. John Wayne started it as the head of the trio, Stony Brook, then Tom Steele, who went on to be Captain Marvel in the serial(some of which was shot at the apartment house we lived in at the time. The front acted as the front of Billy Batson's apartment building and the back fire escape and roof was used for a confrontation with some bad guy), finally Ray "Crash" Corrigan finished out the series. Several second and third guys, including Ukelele "Ike" Edwards (the voice of Jimminy Cricket in Disney's Pinocchio)Jimmy Dodds (Later to be host of the Mouseketeers)and finally Cannonball "Dub" Taylor (last seen, near as I can remember, as the clerk/owner of the hotel that got shot up in The Getaway).

And, yes, there were several Lash LaRue movies, some Eddie Dean, a better singer than Roy or Gene and naturally, those two.

Those were the days.

Yes, that was Cliff Arquette doing his Charley Weaver character.

That movie with Joan Crawford, Zachary Scott and Ann Blythe was "Mildred Pierce".

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Boy, what a 4th of July. Debated all morning as to building a fire in the wood stove, or just putting on a sweatshirt. Had several hours of rain, very heavy at times, and tonight temp will be 45 with 10 mph winds, 35 deg WCF. Too cold to spend much time outside watching fireworks. Have a seniorNet friend in Pennsylviania, who e-mailed it was going to be 96 there today.

Mr. Golfputts, welcome and thank you for the Charly Weaver answer, but what was the question? Also, Mr. Golf, it sounds like you are, or were am Angelino--I as well,and so were a couple of other in this discussion.

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Menziesii Charley Weaver was the guy in the basement of Dennis Day's apartment house. I think he was the handyman/super.

52 of my 71 years were lived in LA.... Culver City, Hollywood, Burbank (separate, of course, but still inside the city. LOL)and Mission Hills in the SFV.

Folks did some extra work when we first got here. Dad got on with the Pacific coast Patrol and later made it into RKO Studios from about '45 to '62. Worked his way up from gate guard to casting director for Mike Todd's "Around the World In 80 Days"

I came down to Palm Springs in early '94 to help dad take care of mom when he got prostate cancer. My wife died end of June in '92.

Hmmm, that's not much of a movies report, is it?

Maybe this will help. My claim to fame is being Richard Burton's stunt-double in "The Robe".

Hi Golfputts - What an interesting biography you have shared with us. Please tell us more about working in the movie industry? Did you do any other stunt work, or only for Richard Burton, in "The Robe"? Stunt work is tough and grueling work, from what I have heard and read. What was it like working with Burton? I guess it was long before he became famous, as a result of Elizabeth and "Cleopatra". Also, fascinating that your dad was casting director for, "Around the World in 80 Days". (He might have been instrumental in launching the career of Shirley MacLaine!)

I'm also an Angelino - was born there, and lived there during the 30's, 40's and 50's. Now I'm living up near San Francisco, but I always look forward to, and love visiting my daughter, in Hollywood. She works for Roger Corman. (Not as one of his, "leading ladies", but only in video sales!) Hope to hear from you again soon.

Remember, Marilyne, you asked for it.

Somebody was trying to tell me something, I think. Was about 2/3 of the way thru my first response when it disappeared! Think I hit the ESC key, accidentaly of course. This will be much shorter!

I didn't work WITH Burton, only FOR him. He was a bit reclusive at the time, as far as I could tell,anyway and I never intruded on my stars when the didn't seem to want it. I got the job because I was on of the top ten movie fencers at the time and that was my stuntman's forte, although I did do quite a few fights, small falls and horsebacking. I was never a fuil-fledged stuntman as I never learned how to do the big stuff. But I was good enough to double Burton, Dan O'Herlihy, Edgar Barrier and several lesser lights in all the small stuff, along with just being a soldier, sailor, Viking/Knight/Musketeer types, thugs, etc., on my own. My movie/TV career was about 50% plain old extra and standin work,starting with Our Gang Comedies, while still in school, Bachelor and The Bobbysoxer, The Babe Ruth Story (Wm Bendix)and a whole bunch more. After high school and a six month stint with Prudential Insurance, my first job as an adult and fulltime film worker was I Was A Male War Bride.... 30% stunt work..... and 20% plain acting in My Little Magie, Gunsmoke, The Millionaire, China Doll, Screen Director's Playhouse, The Addams family, Tension At Table Rock, and several sci-fi's weith names like "Creatures With The Atom Brains". My other claim to fame is an almost. I was ALMOST the kid in Tomorrow The World, with Frederick March. Apparently, Skip Homier's agent was in the group of men watching my preparation rehearsals and just as the producer, Hunt Stromberg, thought, he decided to accept the deal offered afterall so Skip could recreate his stage role for the movie. That's it for now. Pretty big nutshell. Hope it wasn't to boring for you all.

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Mr. Marty. Don't know if you get Turner Classic Movies, or if stay up late enough to have watched it--come to think about it, it would have been 3 in the morning ECT--but TCM just showed "The Front Page." I didn't stay up for it myself, but recorded it and will watch it one night this week.

Saturday nights late B&W scary was a repeat of one shown two weeks ago under a different name. Last time it was called QuartermastII, This time they called it Enemy from Space. Ohhhh, scary. Brian Donlevy in a scray flick? Wake Island was more his style of movie.

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Golfputts - Your last message appeared, then disappeared, and then appeared again! Well, whatever happened to it is OK, because it was worth waiting for. Thanks for telling us a little about your career in the movies. It does sound to me, like it was very, "glorious past"!

Being a double for a famous person must be fun - but certainly no recognition or glory. I had a friend who doubled for Barbara Bel Geddes, in, "Vertigo". I recall her saying that it was a thankless job, mostly spent just sitting around and waiting. I'm sure it was better for you, because you had a definite skill that was needed, like fencing or horseback riding. You could always look forward to eventually doing something.

When you were working in the "Our Gang" comedies, was it the same time frame as, Robert Blake? Tell us more about what parts you played in some of the TV shows like, "Addams Family" or "Gunsmoke"?

Yes and No.

Yes, I have TCM.

No, I didn't tape "The Front Page."

You didn't specify which version they showed, the original 1931 Adolphe Menjou-Pat O'Brien one or the 1974 Walter Matthau-Jack Lemmon one. In any case, I've previously seen both of them.

I still prefer the Cary Grant-Roz Russell one from 1940 ("His Girl Friday.")

you got my attention on the bwesterns sunset passed away in 1990 atarreet in 86 elliott in 65 at age of 61 berry killed him self in 1980 it was andy clyd with hoppy also gabby is his first only i got to met most of these guys later in 60s and 70s i worked here at the cowboy hall of fame in okc

littlewall... Thanks. Andy Clyd was the face I remembered, just couldn't come up with the right name.

Don "Red" Berry was an aquaintence and sort of family friend. He frequented my dad's healthfood store. He always seemd to be in money trouble (according to dad) and was pretty disturbed overall in the 70's. Must have been some personality problems that he didn't work more. He was just fine in the few parts he did get.

Marilyne...... In "Gomez, the Hypnotist" on the Addams Family, I was one of the two cops he dealt with. Forget the whole thing but we wake up draped with furs supposedly stolen or something and then everything was okay.

I was then younger brother in Gunsmoke's "Alarm At Pleasant Valley". We had lost our dad to renegade indians and were moving out. Matt and Chester are passing by just as those indians were about to attack again and helped us fight them off. I got shot in the shoulder when I went to the creek for water. "Our" place was that half-buried-in-the-ground log cabin you've seen so many times. It's in Corriganville, which is also the spot where the bridge is in The Robe. The spot where the wagon, pulled by those four white horses, stops to let "me" out and take the helpers horse to stand off with the approaching Praetorian Guards to help the helpless Demetrious (Victor Mature) escape.

The script and/or director didn't call for me to do a very good job. I was bulldogged off my horse and captured immediately, as you may recall.

I was another younger brother, and catalyst for the rest of the Gunsmoke story "How To Die For Nothing". Me and a buddy are two drunken cowboys who come into Dodge ahead of the rest of the cattle drive crew. We resist giving up our guns and Matt knocks out my pal with his gun. I draw mine and my horse jiggles enough that Matt is able to shoot me before I can get him. I fall off my horse...dead. The rest of the story is about my brother seeking revenge.

So there.

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Mr. Marty, it was the orginal 1931 version with Adolphe Menjou and Pat O'Brien. I, as well, have seen this movie before, but it is as claimed by Turner, a classic. Will watch it tonight inplace of the ballgame.

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Apparently he had a very bizarre personality, but he sure was a tremendous actor! He starred in many of my favorite films throughout the years - starting with, "On the Waterfront". Who can ever forget the scene with Marlon Brando, in the back seat of the taxi? And then later seeing him hanging from the hook! That was one great movie.

"Doctor Zhivago", is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time. He was so well cast in that film, and every scene he was in was a memorable one. Then of course there was his Oscar winning performances in, "Heat of the Night", and, "The Pawnbroker". And his strange, but perfect portrayal of Judd Fry, in, "Oklahoma".

Yes, Marilyn...Steiger was more than a little off center off screen, but he DID do some good stuff on it. Basically I didn't care for his "Method" acting style, but he certainly was great as the cop in "In the Heat of the Night."

I always liked two of his early b&w films that are mostly forgotten nowadays, but if you ever can catch them on TV, try and do so...they're very interesting: "Over the Bridge" (British - 1957) and "Cry Terror" (1958).

I was surprised to read in his obit that he was opera-trained and did his own singing as Jud in "Oklahoma." Also that the reason he wasn't hired to repeat on film his TV role in "Marty" was because the producer, Burt Lancaster (yes, THE Burt Lancaster) thought he was too "intense" an actor and wanted someone more "gentle" for the film (i.e. Ernest Borgnine, who wound up winning the Oscar for it.)

BTW Marilyn: Speaking of Oscars, Steiger didn't win one for "The Pawnbroker" (at least not a Hollywood one; he did win the British one for it.) He was nominated for "Pawnbroker", but lost out that year to Lee Marvin who won for "Cat Ballou."

golf!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, tell me, pleeease! You were within breathing distance of my all time idol, Cary Grant?????????? What was he like? Of course there are the portraits painted by the scandal rags, but I will always and forever admire him for the multi-faceted portrayals in comedies and dramas. I thought he, along with James Cagney, could do anything well.

Science fiction, eh? Did you ever work on "The Brain from Planet Arous" with my first heart throb, Robert Fuller???

What wonderful memories you have, especially for those of us who grew up on black and white movies, when television was intelligent enough to show them. Now television is for the birds, and since I don't have TCM, I never get to see the classics anymore.

Marty, I will never forget how "The Pawnbroker" impressed me, much like Von Sydow's movies did. I guess it was the '60's, and PBS used to show these goodies every Saturday. I was glued to the set, and the dark violent movies always appealed to me. I was never a "Sound of Music" type of gal, I preferred my musicals more "Rocky Horror"-ish!

Funny with Steiger, though, his real life persona was a let down, much like Brando. Then again, if the stars of the '30s and '40s didn't have the studios grooming and protecting their image, I'm sure their reality would have also been far less impressive.

I preferred my musicals more "Rocky Horror"-ish!

she said, contradicting herself. The song "Dancing Cheek to Cheek" just came to me, and Edward Everett Horton and Fred Astaire and that dress with all the feathers that kept flying off and "Top Hat" and Gene Kelly and THAT was a musical and THOSE were the days of movies, and oh I wish I was alive in 1935.

And "Impact" is STILL one of my favorite movies and yet I fell asleep on it the other night when PBS ACTually showed it. Shame on me, I adore that movie.

sigh* I'm nothing if not a mass of contradictions.

do YOU say your dad worked at rko? I GOT TO KNOW TIM HOLT WHEN MOVED HERE IN 69 imho HE WAS ONE OF THE BETTER ACTORS made some good a movies also his bwesternS were a cut above most good story line and cast and of course he female chasing sidekick chio. he told me a lot of storys of his wild and wacky time at rko also his time in mexico with borgart BTW if any ones wants to know what ever happened to western good guys bad guys good girls and sidekicks we grew watching on a sat. afternoon let know i know a web side with all this infro on it

basilisk - I was interested in your comment about wishing you were alive in l935! I was, but since I was a mere babe, I don't remember a thing! I have often thought about what it would be like to be an adult (in my 20's or 30's) in any preceding decade. The 30's would be wonderful, but I think if I could really go back in time, I would choose the l940's. Although I remember the 40's well, it was from a child's viewpoint.

Now, I'm thinking that it would have been a great time to be a full fledged grown up! Seems that the majority of men were eager and willing to be called up for the military and to serve theer country. And the women were holding down the homefront, working in defense plants, etc. Something very romantic, sad, and yet hopeful, about the music and the movies during the war.

Then afterwards came the returning servicemen, and the surge of happiness that enveloped the country. This was also reflected in the songs and movies. My very favorite from that period is, of course ... The Best Years of Our Lives.

If you had been in your 20s-30s in the 1930's, you'd be betwen 92 and 102 now; the 1940's, you'd be between about 82-92 now.

Probably too old to think up more quizzes. We wouldn't want that.

Marilyne. I just popped back between trips to read a few messages. Thanks for the confidence on the music quiz, but I'm better at making them up than on solving them.

What I really feel inspired to answer is your "favorite decade" question. The years from 1935 to 1945 were my coming of age years. I was 10 in 1935 living hand-to-mouth during the height of the Depression; and a 20-year-old airial gunner in a Navy plane flying over Tokyo Bay when the Japanese surrendered in 1945. We didn't starve during the Depression, but we moved often to avoid back rent and to get concessions (two months free on a one year lease). Being a teenager in the late 1930s also had it's good points-- expecially growing up with the big bands and cutting school to see them at the Paramount or Strand. Living near Yankee Stadium and being able to get into the games free also was a highlight of my childhood.

Then my generation came of age just in time to fight in World War II. I was lucky in coming through combat without a scratch and being back to start college under the GI Bill before I turned 21. But millions of others of my generation weren't so lucky, including the approximately 700,000 Americans who died in the war and the millios of Europeans murdered by the Nazis. (The Best Years of Our Lives also is a favorite movie because, unlike the heroics of typical war movies of that time, it showed the devistating effect the war had on the bodies and minds of people who fought in it.)

In hindsight, I feel the last 75 years of the 20th Century was the greatest time to be alive. But, memory only replays the good times. Every decade is a good time to be alive.

Mort, Marilyne, I am of course romanticizing what I have seen of the decade in the movies and what I "imagine" the general populace to have been like. Of course I know the Depression and impending wars were horrific. And that the studio system manufactured the way stars of the time behaved and looked.

But I am more than a little weary of all the racing around that people do now, and the lack of manners, and the emphasis so many people (and the media) have on money, possessions, instant gratification, and bigger is better. Oh, and did I mention the lack of manners?

Therefore, I love to retreat into the b/w's of the '30s and '40s, and books like "Time and Again". I also liked "Somewhere in Time", so obviously time travel appeals to me. I like the modern conveniences of today, up to a point (I still don't have a CD player and will never have a PalmPilot), but I wish it all went more slowly , and politely, and quietly, and cheaply (which is relative, I know). Oh, and did I mention more politely?

Marty, I know, I'd be older if I had gotten to enjoy the '30s, but when does quality of life get outweighed by quantity? I'm sure if I live into my 80's, that I will be complaining even MORE about the lack of manners in the world at that time. LOL, I am SURE of it!

Mort, basilisk & Marty - Thanks for responding to my fantasy of living as an adult, in the 1930's or 40's. To me, it seems like it was both, "the best of times and the worst of times". But I believe it's true, that the two major events - the Depression, followed by the War - really did bring out the very best in the American people.

I never miss a chance to see a retrospective TV special or documentary on either the Depression years, or the War years. And when I do - it's hard for me to believe that I was actually there. Things looked so different from a child's perspective,

Mort: You were a real part of everything I'm talking about, and were truly a member of, "The Greatest Generation". I'm sure you have read that book? I loved it, and would recommend it to everyone - especially if you don't believe that people were vastly different back then, compared to the way they are now! People had so much more RESPECT for one another in those days! *SIGH*

I was just having this kind of discussion with a friend yesterday (about how the "good old days" of the "Golden Age" were better than now--which, BTW, I totally agree with), when it suddenly struck me that that idea was strictly from the point of view of someone like ME.

I suddenly realized that it would not necessarily be true for, say, black folks (especially in the south) of that era who were not only NOT respected, but who couldn't even vote in many states, who couldn't get more than menial jobs, who mostly lived in terrible poverty, who were terrorized and even lynched, etc.

Yes, I find the thirties, forties and fifties to be wonderful, fascinating decades (from the movies, radio shows and music that I see and hear from those days), but, to paraphrase that old cliche..."Nostalgia is in the eye, and ear, of the beholder."

Marty - For now, things are so slow in all of the Golden discussions - so why not, (temporarily), turn this one into a socialogical thread?! Better than no posts at all. LOL!

I've been thinking about your message, and of course (like you) I only have the, middle class white person, frame of reference. But ... there is one interesting thing that I've noticed in being a avid watcher of, The History Channel, and any documentaries on the 1930's and 40's. There is almost always a speaker, or many speakers from the Black community, who gives their perspective on any given subject.

In the recent show on PBS - "America in the 40's", they had a wide range of "classes" of people, who spoke. (all now in their late 70's or 80's). The very rich and the very poor - middle America, Brooklyn, and the South. The poor people (black and white) all said essentially the same thing concerning the depression - "We didn't know we were poor". "Everyone was in the same boat". "We all struggled together", etc. Then when the war started, of course, all of the younger men were either drafted or enlisted. Mostly they all talked of th